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The comments that prompted my previous post

...and some more observations for free! :)

POSTER #1: Well, after the werewolf kills the Unseelie Sluagh (Hot Topic smells of the wyrm, as if Sluagh weren't entropic enough to begin with),the garou has a facedown with the seelie one, decides she's OK, but needs to be reformed, abducts her, and brings her to the caern to leave her with the Children of Gaia. The CoGs hear of the other Sluagh and chastise the SS for killing before reforming, but let him/her go with a slap on the wrist because at least s/he decided to reform one of the two. Still, they can't let the Sluagh in the caern because of all the entropic taint, so a local higher-ranked CoG Philodox orders the SS to stay with the Sluagh and make sure she doesn't do anything funny. Of course, none of them have the appropriate Lore, so they just assume the Sluagh is a bane-infested mortal who is not beyond redemption, and the sluagh assumes the garou are some kind of freaky wolf gallain.

As for that Unseelie sluagh, tough cookies. There are some things that players should know coming into a crossover game. The primary rule of crossovers: When there are werewolves in the game, don't pick one of the wyrmiest creatures in the WoD unless you can take a werewolf in combat....

ME: Um, I'm confused. Why is the Unseelie sluagh "Wyrm-y?" AFAIK (I've been STing CtD since it came out, and have read pretty much *all* the supplements) "Unseelie" does not equal "evil." Perhaps you are thinking of the Shadow Court in CtD?

POSTER #1: Not Unesslie, necessarily, but Sluagh - and especially Unseelie Sluagh.

Sluagh are close to the abyss - so close that they exist halfway in the shadowlands. They are the final stage of fae entropy, suspended clinging to the autumn world (and dreaming) - the last iteration of a faerie soul's reincarnation cycle as it spirals downward into complete destruction. The sluagh do not reincarnate.

They are also creatures of terror and haunting if you're playing Changeling based on real faerie legends. They feed on fear. Occasionally they eat children, in the stories (but then, so do pooka, redcaps, trolls, and occasionally nockers; folklore faeries have a peculiar taste for children).

Unseelie doesn't mean evil, at least in Canon Changeling (which actually pisses me off; Unesslie faeries are the evil faeries - who decided to rewrite millenia of folklore to make them "not necessarily evil???" And Changeling loyalists wonder why it always winds up silly and bouncy).

"Wyrm" doesn't necessarily mean evil anyway. If you spill gasoline on your shoe when filling the tank, you reek of the wyrm (literally); in that case it means pollution, which is not inherently evil. It also means corruption, torment (in its mad weaver-trapped form), entropy/destruction (the abyss), and death; some of which are evil, others not. Sluagh embody torment, entropy and a close tie to death. Unseelie sluagh moreso; "ravaging" is nothing if not systematic torment and corruption for personal gain.

So, by Poster #1's lights, it's OK for "Wyrm" to not necessarily mean "evil," but *not* OK for "Unseelie" to not necessarily mean "evil?" And if being close to entropy and having a close tie to death makes something "Wyrmy," then wouldn't mages with high levels of the Entropy Sphere, wraiths, corpses, dying people and, indeed, even dying Gaian Garou all also stink of the Wyrm? I can just see the Veil breaches now....:)

People need to *think things through* sometimes....


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